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Re: Mark's Alpha Build

Postby Mark » Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:38 pm

Charles Helm wrote:Thanks. I agree it would be nice to have everything there but not in the way. I guess I need to make sure if I do this it can hold up to the weight I tend to put back there. I would go with a pre-fab system like the ARB as my skills are pretty much non-existent!


Yeah, my skills were pretty much none existent as well when I did it :lol:

I drew up the plans in Vizio using square tube for the frame, bought myself a cheap welder and had at it. The welds aren't pretty but they hold and I have been pretty happy with it.
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Re: Mark's Alpha Build

Postby Charles Helm » Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:44 pm

The good thing about making it for yourself -- if the welds are strong they don't have to be pretty!

Was looking at the back of the Jeep today, trying to figure out if I can really fit everything I want to in a slide out.

What I really need as well is a trailer for those times I need to haul a lot. Been trying to avoid that as I have more than enough rolling stock as it is. :lol:
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Re: Mark's Alpha Build

Postby Mark » Thu Aug 03, 2017 6:58 am

Charles Helm wrote:The good thing about making it for yourself -- if the welds are strong they don't have to be pretty!

That's definitely the way I look at it. They will hold and the way it's built nobody is going to see them so it works for me :lol:

Charles Helm wrote:Was looking at the back of the Jeep today, trying to figure out if I can really fit everything I want to in a slide out.

What I really need as well is a trailer for those times I need to haul a lot. Been trying to avoid that as I have more than enough rolling stock as it is. :lol:

We make more room by better organization and we figure out more stuff to bring :wall:

Last couple of trips I have really been weeding out items that I don't really need and it's helped but I would like to build an off road trailer. Would like to build one with an roof top tent so I can keep all the camping gear in the trailer and just have trail essentials in the truck such as tools, spare parts and recovery gear.
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Re: Mark's Alpha Build

Postby Charles Helm » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:59 pm

I have seen a lot of interesting builds with the trailer and roof-top tent.

Looked at trailers on Craigslist last night and saw one on 37" tires. That would be cool, although that is a lot taller than the Jeep tires and even a bit higher than the H2. :o
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Re: Mark's Alpha Build

Postby Mark » Fri Aug 04, 2017 6:49 am

Yeah, there are some pretty impressive trailers on the market these days and you can get a variety of different configurations. Bet that was a beast of a trailer on 37s. One nice thing about a trailer is if you match your lug pattern as well as tire/wheel combo with your rig you can have two spares with you just in case. Still one for the trailer and one for the rig but its more likely that you will need one for the rig than it is for the trailer. I like the idea of the roof top tents but don't want one on my rig. Don't want the weight up there for when on the trails and I don't want to have to climb down from the top of my truck in the middle of the night, maybe 4' up on top of a trailer isn't too bad though.
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Re: Mark's Alpha Build

Postby Charles Helm » Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:24 pm

We have been hunting the last couple of years at a place with no accommodations and if we overnight we have to drive to a nearby town. It is 20 miles or so. I thought about the roof-top tend. You can get a Jeep hard top with a built-in flip top tent. But then I realized would have to take it all down in the morning if I needed to drive to the spot we were hunting. Not such a good plan after all.
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Re: Mark's Alpha Build

Postby Mark » Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:31 am

That is definitely a factor I have considered as well. Most of our wheeling trips we spend about a week hitting different forest or off road parks camping along the way. When we are going to be in a spot of two nights or more I would have to have to pack everything up each morning to hit the trails only to set back up in the same spot that evening when we get back to camp. You save room with the RTT versus carrying everything separately but it's not worth the hassle to my in that situation.
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Re: Mark's Alpha Build

Postby Mark » Tue Dec 26, 2017 1:39 pm

Decided today to do a quick little mod I had been thinking about for a while now. I have removed the back seat a couple of times for trips and like the extra room but I usually find that at some point on trips I have the need to carry a third passenger for at least a short time. Might be just down the trail a bit or might be running from camp to town to get parts for somebody's truck but it always seems to happen. The probably is while the seat bottoms in the back of the H3 are two separate units the backs of the seat come out as one whole piece and it's very awkward because they move independently. Due to being one piece you only had the choice of all seating or two.

Pulled the seats today and determined that I could cut the bracket for the seat backs to split them while retaining the support they needed when installed.

Started by determining where to cut.

Decided the best place to cut was to the left of the middle mounting point (where it bolts to the floor) on the lower section and where the seats are split in the upper section.

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After doing the cutting I found there was a torx bolt holding the driver side section to the passenger section still. Removed the torx and they came apart. I put the bolt back in the driver side section for safe keeping.

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Then I ground down the cuts and shot them with some semi gloss to prevent any rust from starting.

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The last item to do was to cut the trim piece the creates a threshold between the seat and the cargo area and normally covers the entire width. Cut it down to match each side and cleaned up the plastic a bit.

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All finished and the passenger side reinstalled. I decided to go ahead and leave the middle passenger seat belt. It can be removed but just didn't seem like it was worth removing and reinstalling each time with no real gain.

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I am most likely going to build a platform for this area that will bold to the seat mounts. I will make it the same level as the drawer system in the cargo area extending that storage but also allowing me to pack stuff under it so I can access those items without digging through everything on top of it. Might have to go see if I have enough metal to go ahead and do that this week too.
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Re: Mark's Alpha Build

Postby emmons91 » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:55 pm

I wish I was this mechanically inclined. I've done all my mods myself, but not to the extent of actually making my own material. You've given me some great ideas for more mods. I'll be installing a new exhaust next week so we'll see if I can't screw that up. Only reason I can't do huge mods yet is because my H3 is still my daily driver as well haha. Awesome build, Mark!
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Re: Mark's Alpha Build

Postby Mark » Thu Dec 28, 2017 2:47 pm

I appreciate the comments and the primary reason I did this built thread is to give others ideas on what they can do. To be honest on some of the mods I just winged it, didn't know what I was doing before I started. For example on the drawer system I just bought a cheap welder and gave it a try :lol:

You can probably do a lot more than you think. If you have any questions about any of it let me know.
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