Urgent Rubicon Help Needed

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Urgent Rubicon Help Needed

Postby speedy » Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:34 pm

Please take a few minutes and do this

Thanks
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Re: Urgent Rubicon Help Needed

Postby Sewie » Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:43 am

I'll be sending it in when I get to the office tomorrow. :yup:
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Re: Urgent Rubicon Help Needed

Postby HummBebe » Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:05 am

Please note that there are 2 different affidavits, one for Rubicon experienced wheelers and one for folks who have never been to the Rubicon.

This is an urgent action, we only have until the 31st to get these in.

Thanks for your help.

Sewie, make sure Elliot gets these too!!!
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Re: Urgent Rubicon Help Needed

Postby Mark » Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:58 am

Affidavit sent :yup:

Took a number of tries on a couple of the fax numbers but be patient people, it's important :yup:
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Re: Urgent Rubicon Help Needed

Postby Sewie » Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:46 pm

HummBebe wrote:Sewie, make sure Elliot gets these too!!!



:duh: :duh: :duh:
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Re: Urgent Rubicon Help Needed

Postby HummBebe » Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:19 pm

The guy who is a member of Santa Cruz 4WD Club....IIRC he works in your office and drives an LC?
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Re: Urgent Rubicon Help Needed

Postby Sewie » Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:35 pm

HummBebe wrote:The guy who is a member of Santa Cruz 4WD Club....IIRC he works in your office and drives an LC?


I have no idea who that is. :duh: There's 600+ people on this campus. :P But, Rick, the secretary for SC4WDC who works here, is usually on top of this stuff. I'll check with him if I don't hear anything.

BTW, sent mine in.
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Re: Urgent Rubicon Help Needed

Postby Dadstoy » Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:28 pm

Mine are now sent and on their way.
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Re: Urgent Rubicon Help Needed

Postby stjames151 » Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:58 am

19 signed and sent. Bump for the last day.
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Re: Urgent Rubicon Help Needed

Postby HummBebe » Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:21 pm

We sent in 22 collected from the Nor Cal run...thanks!

Last count we were over 2000 signed affidavits. :lol:
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Re: Urgent Rubicon Help Needed

Postby HummBebe » Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:26 pm

Well,
the comment period is over, please take some time and read the comments presented by members of FOTR, RTF and the Legal Eagles we have fighting for us.

Very eye opening and educational:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9641679&postcount=21
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Re: Urgent Rubicon Help Needed

Postby Sewie » Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:42 pm

I scanned through Lance's, Scott's and your letters. Good stuff. Lance's was awesome. 8)

None of the links to the RTF ones work. (edit: saw your post later in that thread)

Link to all comments.

http://www.waterboards.ca.gov/centralva ... ndex.shtml
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Re: Urgent Rubicon Help Needed

Postby Mark » Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:23 pm

Rubicon Trail users and off-highway vehicle (OHV) enthusiasts scored a huge victory last week, when the California Water Quality Control Board voted to remove specific language from the Cleanup and Abatement Order issued to the internationally known Rubicon Trail.

On Thursday, April 23rd the California Water Quality Control Board unanimously voted to issue a Cleanup and Abatement Order (CAO) to El Dorado County and El Dorado National Forest for the Rubicon Trail. Before issuing the CAO; members of the Water Board removed significant verbiage from the CAO. These items include:

Mandate for seasonal restriction (closure)
Incomplete and un-reviewed science
Unverifiable traffic/population numbers
References to uncertified/unreleased draft planning documents
The Water Board also relaxed the timelines for more attainable dates. “We have only just begun to keep the Rubicon Trail open for all to use. Much work remains to be done this summer and in the coming years to comply with this CAO”, says Randy Burleson, President of Rubicon Trail Foundation.

According to some Water Board staff members the turnout for Thursday’s public hearing was one of the largest to date; “Rubicon Trail Foundation appreciates the huge response from trail users, who out-numbered anti-OHV attendees by nearly 100 to 1, with a massive show of grass-roots force that filled the parking lot and overflowed into the street”, states Burleson.

Present at the public hearing was Assemblyman Ted Gaines, R-Roseville, who commented, "We couldn't have asked for a better outcome. This is a move forward in the right direction for both the Rubicon Trail and its users. When organizations are able to work together; everyone benefits. I appreciate the Water Boards consideration in providing a balanced approach to this very sensitive issue".

“We are very pleased with the Water Boards decision”, says Pearse Umlauf, Founder & CEO of the National Off-Road Association (NORA). “We’ve accomplished much more than language changes within the CAO, we’ve started to change the image of OHV enthusiasts. Over 300 OHV enthusiasts were present at Thursday’s public hearing providing a quiet and united presence to members of the Water Board. All that were in attendance treated the Water Board and its staff with respect and kindness. Thursday’s hearing made clear just how much OHV users care about the Rubicon Trail and the environment; they’ll do whatever it takes to help obtain the goals outlined in the CAO. NORA’s focus is to find the common interest between different users groups, by highlighting our common goals we accomplish much more”.

Ken Landau, assistant executive officer with the Regional Water Board stated “We were very impressed with the demeanor and behavior at a very potentially contentious and impassionate meeting before the Regional Board on the Rubicon Trail. The orderly manner of everyone allowed the board to hear all sides of the issue. We greatly appreciate everyone’s cooperation in making this meeting a success”.

The National Off-Road Association would like to say a special “Thank you” to the following individuals, groups and businesses who helped make last Thursday’s public hearing such a success:

Assemblyman Ted Gaines
Norman Gonzales & Ross Branch with Congressman Tom McClintock’s office
Josiah Prendergast with Congressman Dan Lundgren’s office
American Motorcycles Association; Dave Pickett
California Associations of 4WD Clubs; Suzy Johnson
Duncan Waldrop
Friends of the Rubicon
Pirate4x4.com; Camo & Lance
Placerville Polaris & Power Tools; Rick Grove
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Re: Urgent Rubicon Help Needed

Postby speedy » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:54 pm

Still under fire this time it's about a area known for it's Big rocks "Little sluice"
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=805628

If your up for some drama click here http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=804031

Please post this or email as needed

We need to be there!!!!!!
Regardless of your opinion on what happens to Little Sluice.
Leave it alone or crack the rocks.
I see this as give em an inch and they'll take a mile :cry:
Whats next soup bowl,old sluice,the granite bowl :evil:

If you can't make it please send an email
Please write your specific suggestions to Tom Celio at: tcelio@co.el-dorado.ca.us

Thanks Rick

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This is the most important meeting you can attend all year

The decision has NOT BEEN MADE....it is up to us to form the decision to do anything if anything... Be HEARD!!!

County Meeting - Board of Supervisors Chambers

Where: 330 Fair Lane. Placerville, California 95667

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When: 6:30 PM - Wednesday night

Discussion: Little Sluice - Public input

My purpose for going will be to let the County know that I do not support the alteration of the Rocks in the Little Sluice.

The area should be managed as the rest of the trail is managed.

Focused Volunteer effort can be effective.

If we don't show up, we can't blame anyone but ourselves if the outcome is not what we perceive to be the correct choice. I will be there presenting a plan to maintain the area, I need your support, your presence and your comments.

Please please please be there.

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Re: Urgent Rubicon Help Needed

Postby Mark » Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:29 am

Everyone that can get there please do :yup:

Thanks for posting the info :yup:
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